RESEARCH WITH YOUR DNA
WHAT KIND OF RESULTS?
Analysis of My DNA
|There are THREE kinds of DNA tests for
genealogy purposes. They are best explained first hand from the
I also find this blog very informational:
Y-dna testing is only available for males, telling the
ancestry of the paternal surname straight line back (unless there was an
oops at some point in time).
ATTENTION MY COUSINS with Maine
ancestry: We need certain names to do a Y-dna test, namely at least
those with these Surnames: STINNEFORD, MORGRAGE/MORGRIDGE, BOUDWAY,
LEAVITT, PEAVEY, FLAGG.
MtDNA is available for anyone, telling the maternal
line straight back, surname changing every generation, mother's mother's
mother's mother...... Take the FMS test at FTDNA.
Until 2011 or so all those other families in the middle
were out of luck. That is the Family Finder or Autosomal test, now
available to anyone.
FREE DNA Test - If you have already taken an autosomal test with any company, for a limited time you can get a free
test by transferring. Details below.
Dec 14, 2018
Update from PC World
Wherever you buy a dna test, WAIT until it goes on one of
their frequent sales. Shipping charge also added by all companies.
Ancestry reg $99 various sales, tests autosomal only, no maternal line
ID, or Y paternal. You get cousin matches, and Ancestry has by far the
largest growing database of testers for possible matches. Sometimes on
23&me reg $99, or $199 with health reports, sometimes on sale for $69.
(I initially paid $299, price went down). Tests autosomal like Ancestry
does, PLUS basic
indicators for Y line if male, and mtdna for all. No subsequent "upgrades" to buy. I tested my parents
here. Very detailed info. You get cousin matches for the autosomal,
but none for the Y or mtdna.
Family Tree dna - Autosomal Family Finder test here is now $89, sometimes on sale, but NO Y or mtdna info. They sell those tests separately. If
trying to solve a Y-line problem, I recommend the Y test, reg $169 for
the Y-37; $268 for the Y-67.
Y-67 is really much better and specific than the 37. This is where the National Assn Of Leavitt Families has their Y-Leavitt
research database. A good sale is $40 off the Y tests, or
$80 off a combo Y and Family Finder test.
All 3 give you the option of connecting with others of similar dna
markers. These 3 companies do have large comparison databases to find
MYHeritageDNA began their own dna testing a few
years ago, and to beef up their comparison database, offered a
free transfer with full results according to their analysis until Dec 1,
2018. Their European database is larger. Their
analysis IS different, and accuracy is increasing with a larger database. They also sell their
test for $99, often on sale.
FREE DNA TESTS
Living DNA reg $159, new in 2017 similar to 23&me
testing all three types of dna, but not telling you matches to the Y and
maternal. Matches to autosomal begin in late 2018. Best for those with
British ancestry, breaking down the ancestral regions in Britian,
Scotland, and Ireland. Sometimes on sale for $79.99. FREE
TRANSFER available beginning mid 2018.
OTHER COMPANIES - For the most part, most
other companies are just trying to make money jumping on the bandwagon.
Stick with these main companies that the experts recommend. Check
out DNA blogs and facebook pages.
|What did I learn from these tests?
I first tested with Family Tree DNA - FTDNA (Y in 2008,
mt in 2011, and autosomal in 2012). All 3 tests
are separate and costly, with numerous upgrades, but prices have gone
down. It requires a simple cheek swab. I also
questioned the results, showing me 90.82%
Western European and 9.18% Middle Eastern. I found no
more specific breakdown. Cousin matches seemed to
show few common surnames in our ancestries.
MY test at FTDNA: My Y-dna Rhoades line belongs to
Haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1 (slightly different with 23&me because of
different testing methods). FTDNA also matched
my paternal line to people named Peavey instead of Rhoades. Story about
that adventure coming soon. Renaming of the haplogroups now shows me as
R1b-M269. See that story and photo comparisons
Genealogists on Facebook discussions have mentioned that
it is not an exact science, especially after the first few digits. Y testing has evolved in 2017 and 2018 for
much fine tuning of your branch.
Ancestry.com and 23andme.com both use the same test,
using a saliva sample.
23&me is the Company they used the first season of
the PBS TV show "Finding Your Roots" before Ancestry became a
sponsor. I paid $299 each for my parents' tests
and was delighted, because it tested all 3 (paternal, maternal, and
autosomal) for one price. I had also tested myself at Ancestry.com
for $99. The only difference between these two companies is that,
Ancestry does not give you your complete analysis or paternal/maternal
data, and 23&me does, and gives
more detailed analysis. I have received
contact info for MANY cousins with both these tests, and can see
comparing family trees who our common ancestors are. Comparing the
common ancestors and the common dna strands can help determine which
strands are passed down from which families to help identify future
|MY test at Ancestry.com :
No classifications of haplogroups.
89% British Isles and 11% Central European (covering
France, Germany, Sweden). Seems to tell nothing more specific than that.
But cousin matches from dna do seem to match paper trails (from close to
Aug 2014: They have expanded what they tell you. I
am now: 97% European @ 32% Great Britian, 31% Europe West, 18% Ireland,
11% Scandinavia. Trace regions include: 2% European Jewish, 2% Iberian
Peninsula, 1% Italy/Greece, < 1% Europe East, and 3% West Asia/Caucasus.
My Father's side - Roland3 Rhoades
tree at 23andme :
23&me says his paternal Y haplogroup is
R1b1b2a1a2d3 which disagrees with FTDNA. I found
out one is not necessarily wrong; they test different markers, and have
also changed their classifications.
This test showed 100% European, broken down as 37.9%
British & Irish (includes Scotch/Welsh), 7.5% French & German, 7.1%
Scandinavian, and 42.5% "Nonspecific Northern European", and .2% Italian
and 3.9% "Non-specific Southern European". Nonspecific means they
do not yet have the comparative data to pin it down, but it will
eventually increase the Scandinavian and French amounts. This is one
reason why they dropped the price to build their database to a million
users. The test also showed .1% Ashkenazi Jewish and .8% Non-specific
European, and <.1% Native American (that kinda blows a hole in my
grandfather's story about his g-grandmother being an Indian princess!).
This test also showed 2.7% Neanderthal dna.
Aug 2014 Update his results have been refined: 99.8%
European, broken down as 41% British & Irish, 14.8% French & German,
8.2% Scandinavian, 29.9% Broadly Northern European, 1.3% Iberian, .5%
Broadly Southern European, .1% Ashkenazi, 4.1% Broadly European; .2%
East Asian & Native American, .1% Mongolian, <.1% Native American.
Still 2.7% Neanderthal dna.
His Maternal Haplogroup is U2e1a (this group expanded into Europe 35,000 years ago with
some of the first humans to inhabit the continent.) This line would be:
Marion Boudway (my grandmother) > Agnes Peterson of Sweden > Johanna Gross > Emilia
Augusta Borjesson > Anna Svensdotter b 1790 Goteborg county > Brita
Maria Hansdotter - of Sweden but those patrilineal names confuse
ancestry. I would never know that if I hadn't tested my father
before it was too late. Test the oldest people in your family;
each new generation dilutes the gene pool by 50%.
His major families: P: Peavey, Flagg, Hallowell, Briggs, French;
Pooler, Crozier, LaChance; Peterson, Gross, Holmen, Borjesson.
test at 23andme (Roland4 Rhoades):
With both my parents
having different results than my test at FTDNA, I was actually beginning
to wonder if maybe I got switched at the hospital with another baby.
But, my 23andme test also shows my paternal dna is exactly the same
haplogroup, as it should be: R1b1b2a1a2d3. This is a
subgroup of R1b1b2, the most common haplogroup in western Europe, with
distinct branches in specific regions. Populations include Irish,
Basques, British, and French, and the group is about 17,000 years old.
Cousin matches from dna
DO match the paper trail.
|My Mother's side - Muriel Robertson
Rhoades tree at 23&me.com :
Her Maternal Haplogroup is H6a1b2.
European, broken down as 57% Bristish & Irish (includes Scotch/Welsh),
12.5% French & German, 3.7% Scandinavian, and 25.7% "Nonspecific
Northern European", and .3% "Non-specific Southern European".
Nonspecific means they do not yet have the comparative data to pin it
down. This is one reason why they dropped the price to build their
database to a million users. The test also showed .8% Non-specific
European, and <.1% South Asian (India). This test also showed 2.9%
Aug 2014 her results have been refined: 99.9%
European, broken down as 64.8% British & Irish, 12.7% French & German,
2.3% Scandinavian, 16% Broadly Northern European, .2% Italian, 2.1%
Broadly Southern European, 1.8% Broadly European, .1% unassigned. 2.9%
Her major families: P: Robertson,
McFarlane, McCullough, Mitchell, Safford, Jumper, Cordwell, Rogers;
M: Leavitt, Morgridge, Stinneford, Trafton, Penney, Russell, Mason, Walls.
at 23andme (Roland4 Rhoades):
My mtdna test agrees with my mother's, as it should, as
H6a1b2. H6 is a
relatively ancient offshoot of H that arose about 30,000 years ago,
before the Ice Age peak, and moved east into central Asia. Fairly recent
migrations have brought H6a into western Europe over the last few
Again, FTDNA was different, telling
me My maternal line haplogroup is H6a1a2a.
mtdna maternal ancestry is: Muriel Ruth Robertson > Edith Maude Leavitt
1889 > Ellura Mae Stinneford 1860 > Lupira B Trafton 1832 > Margaret
Jane Penney 1795 > Molly/Mary Gowen 1759 > Kesiah Cole 1729 > Bethiah
Spencer 1698 > Mary ( ) 1663 md John Spencer, all born in Maine,
earliest 5 in Wells, York area. Any cousins out there?
Total ancestry composition shows 100% European, broken down as 43.7%
British & Irish (includes Scotch/Welsh), 9.9% French & German, 8.9%
Scandinavian, and 35.8 Non-specific Northern European, .7% Nonspecific
Southern European, and .9% Nonspecific European. Also shows < .1% South
Asian. Also 2.8% Neanderthal dna.
results have been refined: 99.5% European, broken down as 46.5% British
& Irish, 21% French & German, 8.4% Scandinavian, 21.5% Broadly Northern
European, .2% Italian, .2% Broadly Southern European, .1% Ashkenazi,
1.6% Broadly European; .1% East Asian & Native American, .1% Broadly
East Asian, <.1% Broadly East Asian & Native American, .3% Unassigned.
Still 2.8% Neanderthal dna.
|GEDMATCH.COM - I uploaded my data from all tests to this FREE impartial analysis
website. IF you have taken an autosomal test
anywhere, you can upload and transfer your dna here for FREE for another
analysis and cousin matches.
matches autosomal dna, not Y or mtdna.
Roland4 Rhoades (me) #T447793
my father Roland3 Rhoades #M153063
his sister Lynda Rhoades #T902202
Bryan Flagg (2nd cousin of Roland3) #T750776
my mother Muriel Robertson #M321905
Margaret Hanson (dau of Muriel's sister) #T450597
Shirley Leavitt Glotz (Muriel's 2nd cousin) #ZN5777969
If you are one of my cousins -
Maternal: Robertson, McFarlane, Safford,
Leavitt, Stinneford, Morgridge, Mason, or Paternal: Peavey, Flagg,
Hallowell, French, Boudway, Pooler, Peterson, Gross, etc, I hope you will test so we can see how we
match. LET ME KNOW!
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